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Hello /r/BudgetAudiophile. New guy here with a few questions.
I recently started looking into a sound system for my home. Right now I have a used HTIB, 5.1 surround sound Yamaha system. It uses the RX-V373, and I'm afraid I don't know much more about it. I bought it used, and the previous owner could only tell me that is was from Best Buy and cost about $600 three or four years ago. It's the receiver, subwoofer, four bookshelf speakers, and one of those slightly wider speakers that goes in front of the tv (not sure of the name).
I have recently come across a Boston Acoustics VR 20 (touted as a Boston Acoustics VR Lynnfield on Craigslist) for $100. Here is an album of it. Is it worth what he's asking for it? Will these speaker be compatible with my receiver?
I'm afraid I know very little about sound systems in general, and I haven't found much about these VR20s. Thanks for your time!
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Originally Posted by vaifan1982
I would like to find out the best possible speaker configuration/combinations and room placement for my home theatre system. My speakers are as follow:
Amp: Denon AVR 3313
2x BA VR35 THX floorstanding
1x BA VR12 centre
4x BA VRS Pro THX dipole
1x BA VR2000 THX subwoofer
2x BA VR2 floorstanding
1x BA VRC centre
1x BA CRC centre
2x BA CR95 floorstanding
My room is pretty much square, carpeted.
I don't think anyone else has given you any suggestions, so I'll give it a go. In my opinion, based on what I know of all those speakers and DTS/Dolby setups, here is the configuration I would go for (in a 7.1 setup):Amp: Denon AVR 3313
2x BA VR35 THX floorstanding
1x BA VR12 centre
4x BA VRS Pro THX dipole
1x BA VR2000 THX subwoofer
2x BA VR2 floorstanding
1x BA VRC centre
1x BA CRC centre
2x BA CR95 floorstanding
My room is pretty much square, carpeted.
VR-35 (Mains)
VR-12 (Center) - Timbre matching to mains on the center is a must in my opinion (not as crucial on the surrounds; keeping in Boston VR/CR series is fine)
VRS Pro - on the wall if possible (Surrounds)
VRS Pro - on the wall if possible (Rear Surrounds)
VR 2000 Sub
Make sure the VRS Pro In-Phase/Out-of-Phase directions line up on all four speakers (Google 'how to use dipoles in a 7.1 setup' and Atlantic Technology has an excellent PDF for that, which should be the first result)
Then, make a separate 6.1 system with the others (if you have space; or keep them in reserve):
VR-2 (Mains)
VRC (Center) - Also timbre-matched
CR95 (Surrounds)
CRC (Rear Surround) with potential to add another for 7.1
And (obviously) add another sub and receiver
If you are looking to do a Dolby Atmos/DTS-X setup in the near future, I would recommend this:
VR-35 (Mains)
VR-12 (Center)
VR-2 (Surrounds)
CR95 (Rear Surrounds) - The VR2s and CR95s can be switched, but the VR2s as surrounds would improve timbre matching (the difference may or may not be noticeable)
VRS Pro (On Ceiling 1, in front of listening position)
VRS Pro (On Ceiling 2, above listening postion) - Have the in-phase sides all facing towards the listening position
VR 2000 Sub
There are many other potential configurations (as you have no doubt imagined), but those make the most sense to me based on what I know and the configurations that I have listened to. I have done a lot of research as I have assembled my two Boston 7.1 systems (of VR and CR speakers). As far as placement, I would look at the official Dolby and DTS documents (just Google them and they should be pretty easy to find) to place them at the proper angles and then experiment from there. My summary of those: about 20-30 degrees for the mains and surrounds to be toed in if they are not dipoles (dipoles straight-on either side of listener from the front center plastic piece), center straight in front of listening position, and rear surrounds face straight to the back of the listener if not dipoles (dipoles straight on back of listener from the center plastic piece). The subwoofer can either be placed at the front of the room or on one of the sides of the room, at least a few inches from the wall for optimum placement (that comes down to your preference in your room exclusively).
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In a follow up, I ended up snagging the T930's and am I using them as my mains. They extend a lot lower than my older mains (A60 Series II's) and I'm very happy with them. Currently, I'm running the A60 as a center flipped upside down so the tweeter is more at ear level, but next I'm going to be look for a decent center. Some posters here have mentioned the VR12 as a good match for the T series, but are there any other options to consider?
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Originally Posted by SpaceLaser
In a follow up, I ended up snagging the T930's and am I using them as my mains. They extend a lot lower than my older mains (A60 Series II's) and I'm very happy with them. Currently, I'm running the A60 as a center flipped upside down so the tweeter is more at ear level, but next I'm going to be look for a decent center. Some posters here have mentioned the VR12 as a good match for the T series, but are there any other options to consider?
I am an advocate for timbre-matching the L-C-R speakers as much as possible in any situation. The best way to do this is to match the tweeters, but unfortunately there is not matching T series center (I could be wrong, but I have seen no mention of one anywhere). Since the T930s have soft-dome tweeters, the A60 is already a good match for them. I've put a lot of hours on the early VR series (I'm listening to my VR20s as I write this), which have an aluminum tweeter, and I can tell you there is a quite noticeable difference to my ears. That being said, the VR12 is a beast of a center, most likely the best Boston has ever made (I haven't heard the VR14, but I would imagine it would sound just about the same). It's worth trying out for sure and maybe it will blend well to your ears (like the other poster suggested). So, all this being said, the best match in my opinion is going a nontraditional route and using a Boston floorstander or bookshelf speaker with a 1' (I think that is the size the T930s have) soft dome tweeter such as another one from the T series, or a bigger one from A series, or HD series, or CR series (CR1, 2, 6). However, since the VR12 is so awesome, I find myself recommending that as well despite the different tweeter. If you are not satisfied with your A60, try to determine what about it is not satisfying to you, think about the form factor you would like for a center, and then proceed from there. In this situation, it will almost definitely take some experimenting to find what sounds best. Hope that helps.
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Originally Posted by TheNightwisher
I am an advocate for timbre-matching the L-C-R speakers as much as possible in any situation. The best way to do this is to match the tweeters, but unfortunately there is not matching T series center (I could be wrong, but I have seen no mention of one anywhere). Since the T930s have soft-dome tweeters, the A60 is already a good match for them. I've put a lot of hours on the early VR series (I'm listening to my VR20s as I write this), which have an aluminum tweeter, and I can tell you there is a quite noticeable difference to my ears. That being said, the VR12 is a beast of a center, most likely the best Boston has ever made (I haven't heard the VR14, but I would imagine it would sound just about the same). It's worth trying out for sure and maybe it will blend well to your ears (like the other poster suggested).
So, all this being said, the best match in my opinion is going a nontraditional route and using a Boston floorstander or bookshelf speaker with a 1' (I think that is the size the T930s have) soft dome tweeter such as another one from the T series, or a bigger one from A series, or HD series, or CR series (CR1, 2, 6). However, since the VR12 is so awesome, I find myself recommending that as well despite the different tweeter. If you are not satisfied with your A60, try to determine what about it is not satisfying to you, think about the form factor you would like for a center, and then proceed from there. In this situation, it will almost definitely take some experimenting to find what sounds best. Hope that helps.
I'm pretty happy with it right now actually, just need to dial the angle in a bit. I think my next investment will be a good subwoofer. So, all this being said, the best match in my opinion is going a nontraditional route and using a Boston floorstander or bookshelf speaker with a 1' (I think that is the size the T930s have) soft dome tweeter such as another one from the T series, or a bigger one from A series, or HD series, or CR series (CR1, 2, 6). However, since the VR12 is so awesome, I find myself recommending that as well despite the different tweeter. If you are not satisfied with your A60, try to determine what about it is not satisfying to you, think about the form factor you would like for a center, and then proceed from there. In this situation, it will almost definitely take some experimenting to find what sounds best. Hope that helps.
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Originally Posted by TheNightwisher
I am an advocate for timbre-matching the L-C-R speakers as much as possible in any situation. The best way to do this is to match the tweeters, but unfortunately there is not matching T series center (I could be wrong, but I have seen no mention of one anywhere). Since the T930s have soft-dome tweeters, the A60 is already a good match for them. I've put a lot of hours on the early VR series (I'm listening to my VR20s as I write this), which have an aluminum tweeter, and I can tell you there is a quite noticeable difference to my ears. That being said, the VR12 is a beast of a center, most likely the best Boston has ever made (I haven't heard the VR14, but I would imagine it would sound just about the same). It's worth trying out for sure and maybe it will blend well to your ears (like the other poster suggested).
So, all this being said, the best match in my opinion is going a nontraditional route and using a Boston floorstander or bookshelf speaker with a 1' (I think that is the size the T930s have) soft dome tweeter such as another one from the T series, or a bigger one from A series, or HD series, or CR series (CR1, 2, 6). However, since the VR12 is so awesome, I find myself recommending that as well despite the different tweeter. If you are not satisfied with your A60, try to determine what about it is not satisfying to you, think about the form factor you would like for a center, and then proceed from there. In this situation, it will almost definitely take some experimenting to find what sounds best. Hope that helps.
The VR14 sounds similar to the VR12, but slightly smoother mids in the dialog frequencies, so perhaps better for movies/TV. The drivers (exact same and same number of those drivers) are the same as the ones in the VR35 towers, giving the next best thing to using (3) VR35s for L-C-R, except the VR14 is oriented for laying horizontal. I have the 2 VR35s (L+R) and VR14 (Ctr), and the VRS Pros (surrounds), they are great. I also have the E-series (E100s, + E70 center and surrounds), and have several other 'high end' 2-channel speakers I occasionally listen to, but I just can't part with the VR35/VR14/VRS-Pro combo. Hope that helps! So, all this being said, the best match in my opinion is going a nontraditional route and using a Boston floorstander or bookshelf speaker with a 1' (I think that is the size the T930s have) soft dome tweeter such as another one from the T series, or a bigger one from A series, or HD series, or CR series (CR1, 2, 6). However, since the VR12 is so awesome, I find myself recommending that as well despite the different tweeter. If you are not satisfied with your A60, try to determine what about it is not satisfying to you, think about the form factor you would like for a center, and then proceed from there. In this situation, it will almost definitely take some experimenting to find what sounds best. Hope that helps.
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Hello all. I'm the original owner of a pair A150's series II bought over 30 years ago and now they are not sounding so great The crossovers I suspect need to be rebuilt. If anyone could supply a schematic of the network or can point me in the right direction for info it would be greatly appreciated. They are truly fantastic speakers with great sentimental value and it would be heartbreaking to toss them in the trash.
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Hey all,
I bought a pair of VR3s in cherry new several years back, and since then have picked up a used VRC to go with it and most recently a pair of VRXs (in black unfortunately!). The main reason I'm here is I'm looking for help. I got the VRX speakers off Ebay, and as usual nobody seems to want to sell the original mounting brackets. I don't know who sells speakers and keeps such seemingly unique mounting brackets. Anyway, does anyone have any advice on where I might find them? I can see a clear picture in the manual of what they look like, but I can't find anything close enough to it that it'll work. Boston Acoustics parts/support is no use at all. Any ideas?
I bought a pair of VR3s in cherry new several years back, and since then have picked up a used VRC to go with it and most recently a pair of VRXs (in black unfortunately!). The main reason I'm here is I'm looking for help. I got the VRX speakers off Ebay, and as usual nobody seems to want to sell the original mounting brackets. I don't know who sells speakers and keeps such seemingly unique mounting brackets. Anyway, does anyone have any advice on where I might find them? I can see a clear picture in the manual of what they look like, but I can't find anything close enough to it that it'll work. Boston Acoustics parts/support is no use at all. Any ideas?
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does any have or know where i can get the brackets for the vrs pro speakers
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I recently upgraded my setup to include a VR12 center and all CR8 surrounds. My CR85s and CR75s are now in reserve for a future Atmos setup, although I do use my CR85s for alternate mains (sometimes I play games in surround and listen to music in stereo as well). The CR8s were mainly due to the prices I got them for ($182 for both pairs together shipped) and for their power handling in the future (125 watts). I'm also primarily using them now to make sure they work fine. The VR12 is the real difference maker. And who says you can't have a 25' speaker under a 24' monitor?
7.1 Setup: Yamaha RX-V671, Boston Acoustics VR40 (Mains), VR12 (Center), CR8 (Surrounds), CR8 (Rear Surrounds), Mirage Omni S10
Second 7.1 Setup: Yamaha RX-V663/Kenwood KR-5030 (Stereo), Boston Acoustics VR20 (Mains), VR10 (Center), CR6 (Surrounds), CRC (Rear Surrounds), Klipsch Sub12HG
2.1 Setup: Nakamichi RE-2, Boston Acoustics VR40 and Mirage Omni S10 (shared with 7.1), Emotiva XDA-1, and Pioneer, Kenwood, dbx, Luxman, Burwen, and JVC vintage equipment
Second 7.1 Setup: Yamaha RX-V663/Kenwood KR-5030 (Stereo), Boston Acoustics VR20 (Mains), VR10 (Center), CR6 (Surrounds), CRC (Rear Surrounds), Klipsch Sub12HG
2.1 Setup: Nakamichi RE-2, Boston Acoustics VR40 and Mirage Omni S10 (shared with 7.1), Emotiva XDA-1, and Pioneer, Kenwood, dbx, Luxman, Burwen, and JVC vintage equipment
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For Bass mgmt on your AVR, are you running these as Large or Small ?
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I purchased a vr12 off of ebay to replace my vr920 center channel speaker. I ran Audyssey last night twice on on my denon avr4311 receiver and both times the center channel came up with high crossover settings. 110hz the first time then ran it again and came back with 100hz crossover. I thought this was kind of high so I decided to run the audyssey on my vr920, both times running the calibration it came back with 40hz crossover on the vr920. Do you think there is a issue with the vr12? The vr12 did sound alot better then the vr920 but no bottom end with the vr12. I would really love to keep the vr12 but worried there is an issue iwth it.
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Originally Posted by miker104
I purchased a vr12 off of ebay to replace my vr920 center channel speaker. I ran Audyssey last night twice on on my denon avr4311 receiver and both times the center channel came up with high crossover settings. 110hz the first time then ran it again and came back with 100hz crossover. I thought this was kind of high so I decided to run the audyssey on my vr920, both times running the calibration it came back with 40hz crossover on the vr920. Do you think there is a issue with the vr12? The vr12 did sound alot better then the vr920 but no bottom end with the vr12. I would really love to keep the vr12 but worried there is an issue iwth it.
Can you hear anything out of the bass drivers ?..may be you can try it on one of the front channels to fully test them ? Member
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I'm pretty sure the bass drivers are working because the crossover point to the mid is 300hz. I'm going to run Audyssey again on the vr12 and after the calibration move the crossover down to 40hz then run a bass sweep from 300hz down to 40hz. I'm thinking its something to do with the internal crossover. I sure hope I can figure this out because the vr12 sounds incredible even compared to my perfectly working vr920 which also sound pretty dang good, but there is no way the vr12 should be crossing over at 110hz.
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Originally Posted by miker104
I'm pretty sure the bass drivers are working because the crossover point to the mid is 300hz. I'm going to run Audyssey again on the vr12 and after the calibration move the crossover down to 40hz then run a bass sweep from 300hz down to 40hz. I'm thinking its something to do with the internal crossover. I sure hope I can figure this out because the vr12 sounds incredible even compared to my perfectly working vr920 which also sound pretty dang good, but there is no way the vr12 should be crossing over at 110hz.
OK I ran the bass sweep from 200hz to 40hz into the vr12. All is good until around 100hz the volume starts dropping and stays low until around 75HZ where the bass picks back up and sounds fine down to around 50hz. Could that possibly be a issue with the crossover? I put the speaker in different areas and ran the same test to eliminate room issues and ended up with the same results. There is a crossover for a v12 on eBay for 40 dollars that I could buy if you guys think that's a possibility, or the seller said he'd give me a 45.00 refund and keep the speaker or just give me my money back. I got a good deal on it so I'd like to get it right. Advanced Member
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OK I ran the bass sweep from 200hz to 40hz into the vr12. All is good until around 100hz the volume starts dropping and stays low until around 75HZ where the bass picks back up and sounds fine down to around 50hz. Could that possibly be a issue with the crossover? I put the speaker in different areas and ran the same test to eliminate room issues and ended up with the same results. There is a crossover for a v12 on eBay for 40 dollars that I could buy if you guys think that's a possibility, or the seller said he'd give me a 45.00 refund and keep the speaker or just give me my money back. I got a good deal on it so I'd like to get it right.
The VR12 is a sealed design and it doesn't have a passive driver for bass reflex like some of the other models. I had a couple of them and its just my opinion but I think what you are hearing and testing may be normal. It could be the strong midrange and lack of midbass is one of the reasons people like it so much for movies as dialogue is so clear without the heaviness that can be present in male voices even when everything else sounds balance. I used them for 2 channel music for a while and they did not have a typical bass tone to them at all. It was tight tight tight and detailed but no thump. It had a tight punch with no authority at all. I think it may trade off that lower midbass response for detail in the 100hz+ range. I would just watch a few movies on it and put the test equipment away. Crank it up and after a couple movies if you are not impressed by the forward detail of it, then try to troubleshoot or just send it back. They pop up pretty often on eBay for 100-150 that if there is a problem with it you should be able to get a correctly working one for a good deal.
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Thanks for your input. Yes I know test equipment isn't the end all, but I've owned a lot of Boston centers vr10,vr910,vrc,vr920,and now the vr12. I've run the calibration on all of them and none of them have ever come back with over 100hz crossover point. What's strange is that it's just really a dip in the frequency between 100-75hz. Bellow 75hz the bass comes back, and although very tight it's volume increases to normal levels. The mid range is incredible, which is what I was hoping for with the vr12. I really loved the vr920 but felt the mids lacked a little. There's a vr12 crossover on eBay for 40.00 I might just get that refund back from the seller and buy the crossover just to ease my mind. I don't think it could be the drivers. Not even sure a crossover can cause a dip.
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Have a pair of Boston M340 looking at powering them with emotiva xpa 2 but noticed the M340 is rated at 4ohms and recommended amplifier power is 50-350 watts. Xpa 2 is 500 watts at 4ohms. Is this to much power for the M340?
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Have a pair of Boston M340 looking at powering them with emotiva xpa 2 but noticed the M340 is rated at 4ohms and recommended amplifier power is 50-350 watts. Xpa 2 is 500 watts at 4ohms. Is this to much power for the M340?
You'll be fine so long as you turn it down immediately if you hear distortion. I'll bet your ears would be bleeding long before you hit the limit on the M340s unless you have a huge room. 7.1 Setup: Yamaha RX-V671, Boston Acoustics VR40 (Mains), VR12 (Center), CR8 (Surrounds), CR8 (Rear Surrounds), Mirage Omni S10
Second 7.1 Setup: Yamaha RX-V663/Kenwood KR-5030 (Stereo), Boston Acoustics VR20 (Mains), VR10 (Center), CR6 (Surrounds), CRC (Rear Surrounds), Klipsch Sub12HG
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Second 7.1 Setup: Yamaha RX-V663/Kenwood KR-5030 (Stereo), Boston Acoustics VR20 (Mains), VR10 (Center), CR6 (Surrounds), CRC (Rear Surrounds), Klipsch Sub12HG
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I own a pair of Boston Acoustics A100 speakers. One has a blown tweeter. It's labelled '25mm copolymer diaphragm ferrofluid cooling' and it has a rectangular faceplate. Since BA no longer sells replacements, I'm wondering if there's another tweeter I can mount on this faceplate.
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Originally Posted by TheNightwisher
I don't think anyone else has given you any suggestions, so I'll give it a go. In my opinion, based on what I know of all those speakers and DTS/Dolby setups, here is the configuration I would go for (in a 7.1 setup):
VR-35 (Mains)
VR-12 (Center) - Timbre matching to mains on the center is a must in my opinion (not as crucial on the surrounds; keeping in Boston VR/CR series is fine)
VRS Pro - on the wall if possible (Surrounds)
VRS Pro - on the wall if possible (Rear Surrounds)
VR 2000 Sub
Make sure the VRS Pro In-Phase/Out-of-Phase directions line up on all four speakers (Google 'how to use dipoles in a 7.1 setup' and Atlantic Technology has an excellent PDF for that, which should be the first result)
Then, make a separate 6.1 system with the others (if you have space; or keep them in reserve):
VR-2 (Mains)
VRC (Center) - Also timbre-matched
CR95 (Surrounds)
CRC (Rear Surround) with potential to add another for 7.1
And (obviously) add another sub and receiver
If you are looking to do a Dolby Atmos/DTS-X setup in the near future, I would recommend this:
VR-35 (Mains)
VR-12 (Center)
VR-2 (Surrounds)
CR95 (Rear Surrounds) - The VR2s and CR95s can be switched, but the VR2s as surrounds would improve timbre matching (the difference may or may not be noticeable)
VRS Pro (On Ceiling 1, in front of listening position)
VRS Pro (On Ceiling 2, above listening postion) - Have the in-phase sides all facing towards the listening position
VR 2000 Sub
There are many other potential configurations (as you have no doubt imagined), but those make the most sense to me based on what I know and the configurations that I have listened to. I have done a lot of research as I have assembled my two Boston 7.1 systems (of VR and CR speakers). As far as placement, I would look at the official Dolby and DTS documents (just Google them and they should be pretty easy to find) to place them at the proper angles and then experiment from there. My summary of those: about 20-30 degrees for the mains and surrounds to be toed in if they are not dipoles (dipoles straight-on either side of listener from the front center plastic piece), center straight in front of listening position, and rear surrounds face straight to the back of the listener if not dipoles (dipoles straight on back of listener from the center plastic piece). The subwoofer can either be placed at the front of the room or on one of the sides of the room, at least a few inches from the wall for optimum placement (that comes down to your preference in your room exclusively).
Many thanks for your most knowledgeable response 'TheNighwiser'. I've also Googled the documents for speaker placement as you suggested and your instructions/suggestions make perfect sense. Thanks again! VR-35 (Mains)
VR-12 (Center) - Timbre matching to mains on the center is a must in my opinion (not as crucial on the surrounds; keeping in Boston VR/CR series is fine)
VRS Pro - on the wall if possible (Surrounds)
VRS Pro - on the wall if possible (Rear Surrounds)
VR 2000 Sub
Make sure the VRS Pro In-Phase/Out-of-Phase directions line up on all four speakers (Google 'how to use dipoles in a 7.1 setup' and Atlantic Technology has an excellent PDF for that, which should be the first result)
Then, make a separate 6.1 system with the others (if you have space; or keep them in reserve):
VR-2 (Mains)
VRC (Center) - Also timbre-matched
CR95 (Surrounds)
CRC (Rear Surround) with potential to add another for 7.1
And (obviously) add another sub and receiver
If you are looking to do a Dolby Atmos/DTS-X setup in the near future, I would recommend this:
VR-35 (Mains)
VR-12 (Center)
VR-2 (Surrounds)
CR95 (Rear Surrounds) - The VR2s and CR95s can be switched, but the VR2s as surrounds would improve timbre matching (the difference may or may not be noticeable)
VRS Pro (On Ceiling 1, in front of listening position)
VRS Pro (On Ceiling 2, above listening postion) - Have the in-phase sides all facing towards the listening position
VR 2000 Sub
There are many other potential configurations (as you have no doubt imagined), but those make the most sense to me based on what I know and the configurations that I have listened to. I have done a lot of research as I have assembled my two Boston 7.1 systems (of VR and CR speakers). As far as placement, I would look at the official Dolby and DTS documents (just Google them and they should be pretty easy to find) to place them at the proper angles and then experiment from there. My summary of those: about 20-30 degrees for the mains and surrounds to be toed in if they are not dipoles (dipoles straight-on either side of listener from the front center plastic piece), center straight in front of listening position, and rear surrounds face straight to the back of the listener if not dipoles (dipoles straight on back of listener from the center plastic piece). The subwoofer can either be placed at the front of the room or on one of the sides of the room, at least a few inches from the wall for optimum placement (that comes down to your preference in your room exclusively).
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Many thanks for your most knowledgeable response 'TheNighwiser'. I've also Googled the documents for speaker placement as you suggested and your instructions/suggestions make perfect sense. Thanks again!
I'm glad I could help. Happy listening and experimenting! 7.1 Setup: Yamaha RX-V671, Boston Acoustics VR40 (Mains), VR12 (Center), CR8 (Surrounds), CR8 (Rear Surrounds), Mirage Omni S10
Second 7.1 Setup: Yamaha RX-V663/Kenwood KR-5030 (Stereo), Boston Acoustics VR20 (Mains), VR10 (Center), CR6 (Surrounds), CRC (Rear Surrounds), Klipsch Sub12HG
2.1 Setup: Nakamichi RE-2, Boston Acoustics VR40 and Mirage Omni S10 (shared with 7.1), Emotiva XDA-1, and Pioneer, Kenwood, dbx, Luxman, Burwen, and JVC vintage equipment
Second 7.1 Setup: Yamaha RX-V663/Kenwood KR-5030 (Stereo), Boston Acoustics VR20 (Mains), VR10 (Center), CR6 (Surrounds), CRC (Rear Surrounds), Klipsch Sub12HG
2.1 Setup: Nakamichi RE-2, Boston Acoustics VR40 and Mirage Omni S10 (shared with 7.1), Emotiva XDA-1, and Pioneer, Kenwood, dbx, Luxman, Burwen, and JVC vintage equipment
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Anyone have an idea on what I should sell SubSat 7s (black) for? All in perfect working order with owner's manual and original box. Satellites are cosmetically like new, subwoofer has some minor scuffs on top only, no chips or scratches. Can't seem to find any that have sold in the last few years through a google search, unless they were broken or missing one of the three pieces. Thanks.
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Hey everyone.
I'm starting to prep for a new atmos system in the next couple years and trying to gather up the speakers for it. I started originally about 8 years ago by buying 2 VR-3s, 2 VR-Xs, and a VRC to go along with an AV123 MFW-15 sub. I eventually added a pair of VR-1s as side surrounds for a 7.1 setup. I got lucky and found another pair of VR-3s recently on craigslist locally at a great price. So now I have 4 VR-3s, 2 VR-1s, 2 VR-Xs, and 1 VRC. It could be overkill for my room but I'm looking at maybe a 9.1.4 setup in the future, but this particular VR series seems harder and harder to find these days.
I was just wondering if anyone had recommendations on more easily found Boston speakers that would timbre-match as close as possible the ones that I own and also hopefully at least kind of match in appearance, though the performance is of much higher importance.
Or if anyone was looking to sell any VR series speakers I'd certainly be interested in that. Ideally I'd love another pair of VR-Xs for for the ceiling and then another set of towers (VR-1s would match best but VR-2, or VR-3 would be awesome too) for the remaining two needed for the other set of surrounds.
Also recently I've seen Boston VR-S speakers. I'd never heard anything about them until recently but does anyone know much about these? Are they meant to complement my speakers? They seem like they could possibly work well as ceiling speakers if i couldn't find any more VR-Xs. Anyways, sorry for all the questions and thanks for reading.
I'm starting to prep for a new atmos system in the next couple years and trying to gather up the speakers for it. I started originally about 8 years ago by buying 2 VR-3s, 2 VR-Xs, and a VRC to go along with an AV123 MFW-15 sub. I eventually added a pair of VR-1s as side surrounds for a 7.1 setup. I got lucky and found another pair of VR-3s recently on craigslist locally at a great price. So now I have 4 VR-3s, 2 VR-1s, 2 VR-Xs, and 1 VRC. It could be overkill for my room but I'm looking at maybe a 9.1.4 setup in the future, but this particular VR series seems harder and harder to find these days.
I was just wondering if anyone had recommendations on more easily found Boston speakers that would timbre-match as close as possible the ones that I own and also hopefully at least kind of match in appearance, though the performance is of much higher importance.
Or if anyone was looking to sell any VR series speakers I'd certainly be interested in that. Ideally I'd love another pair of VR-Xs for for the ceiling and then another set of towers (VR-1s would match best but VR-2, or VR-3 would be awesome too) for the remaining two needed for the other set of surrounds.
Also recently I've seen Boston VR-S speakers. I'd never heard anything about them until recently but does anyone know much about these? Are they meant to complement my speakers? They seem like they could possibly work well as ceiling speakers if i couldn't find any more VR-Xs. Anyways, sorry for all the questions and thanks for reading.
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Hey everyone.
I'm starting to prep for a new atmos system in the next couple years and trying to gather up the speakers for it. I started originally about 8 years ago by buying 2 VR-3s, 2 VR-Xs, and a VRC to go along with an AV123 MFW-15 sub. I eventually added a pair of VR-1s as side surrounds for a 7.1 setup. I got lucky and found another pair of VR-3s recently on craigslist locally at a great price. So now I have 4 VR-3s, 2 VR-1s, 2 VR-Xs, and 1 VRC. It could be overkill for my room but I'm looking at maybe a 9.1.4 setup in the future, but this particular VR series seems harder and harder to find these days.
I was just wondering if anyone had recommendations on more easily found Boston speakers that would timbre-match as close as possible the ones that I own and also hopefully at least kind of match in appearance, though the performance is of much higher importance.
Or if anyone was looking to sell any VR series speakers I'd certainly be interested in that. Ideally I'd love another pair of VR-Xs for for the ceiling and then another set of towers (VR-1s would match best but VR-2, or VR-3 would be awesome too) for the remaining two needed for the other set of surrounds.
Also recently I've seen Boston VR-S speakers. I'd never heard anything about them until recently but does anyone know much about these? Are they meant to complement my speakers? They seem like they could possibly work well as ceiling speakers if i couldn't find any more VR-Xs. Anyways, sorry for all the questions and thanks for reading.
These are my personal opinions, so take them as you will.I'm starting to prep for a new atmos system in the next couple years and trying to gather up the speakers for it. I started originally about 8 years ago by buying 2 VR-3s, 2 VR-Xs, and a VRC to go along with an AV123 MFW-15 sub. I eventually added a pair of VR-1s as side surrounds for a 7.1 setup. I got lucky and found another pair of VR-3s recently on craigslist locally at a great price. So now I have 4 VR-3s, 2 VR-1s, 2 VR-Xs, and 1 VRC. It could be overkill for my room but I'm looking at maybe a 9.1.4 setup in the future, but this particular VR series seems harder and harder to find these days.
I was just wondering if anyone had recommendations on more easily found Boston speakers that would timbre-match as close as possible the ones that I own and also hopefully at least kind of match in appearance, though the performance is of much higher importance.
Or if anyone was looking to sell any VR series speakers I'd certainly be interested in that. Ideally I'd love another pair of VR-Xs for for the ceiling and then another set of towers (VR-1s would match best but VR-2, or VR-3 would be awesome too) for the remaining two needed for the other set of surrounds.
Also recently I've seen Boston VR-S speakers. I'd never heard anything about them until recently but does anyone know much about these? Are they meant to complement my speakers? They seem like they could possibly work well as ceiling speakers if i couldn't find any more VR-Xs. Anyways, sorry for all the questions and thanks for reading.
Speaking honestly, I think 9.1.4 is a bit much unless your room is quite large. I don't know if the two extra speakers will really add much benefit, since they are being matrixed in on everything at the moment. Running 13 speakers well will definitely cost some serious money, too.
As far as timbre-matching, matching surrounds is really not all that important, IMO. There's not enough coming out of them that non-timbre matched speakers will jump out at you like the front 3 (L-C-R) will. I prefer to keep within the same brand and close to the same quality level, but others don't even feel that is necessary. For me, my Boston Acoustics CRs work superbly for surrounds with my VRs up front. I have all of them listed in my signature (as well as a pair of CR85s and CR75s for a future Atmos setup). With all of those, I have yet to notice a difference in the tweeters when watching/listening to a movie in surround sound (they share the same woofers as the VRs). The CRs are also very readily available at the moment.
Of course, if you listen to multi-channel music a lot timbre-matching is important. However, I seriously doubt that the rear surrounds or ceiling speakers in a mix would be all that important, especially for concerts. Maybe when they start doing 7.1 or higher mixes of studio albums they'll be important. I don't think too many mix in more than 5.1 at this point for music, let alone Atmos. The only 'Atmos' mix for a concert/music Blu-Ray I've seen is on Roger Waters' The Wall and that's listed as 5.1 (I'm curious as to how that classifies as Atmos unless they are just using the object-oriented part and not the channels part).
As far as buying them, all I can say is just watch EBay. There's a decent selection available now if you want some VR-M bookshelves or VR-900 series, which are both timbre-matched. Since you're using a subwoofer, the bookshelves should integrate quite well into your system with a crossover of around 80 Hz.
The VRS speakers are the surrounds for the early VR series. The VRS and VRS Micro only go down to 125 hertz, which makes them hard to integrate into most systems (I actually cancelled an order of a pair of VRS speakers from EBay when I found that out). The VRS Pros are the better ones, going down to 80 Hz, but that still may be hard to integrate. Personally, I have mixed feelings about using plastic speakers and dipoles in general. If you end up buying a pair, they could be used for ceiling speakers, however it is better to have 2 pairs of them and not just 1. Atlantic makes a good manual on how to mount them if you search for 'How to use dipoles in an Atmos setup' on Google.
In addition to those, the VRi series may be an option. Those generally run a little expensive IMO and are pretty hard to find, but are the matching in-ceilings for the VR series.
The Bravo, Micro, and E series all have the VR tweeter in them, so those could work as well. The Micros and the Bravos may or may not be hard to integrate into the system depending on where you want your subwoofer set.
Again, those are my personal opinions, so take them as you will.
7.1 Setup: Yamaha RX-V671, Boston Acoustics VR40 (Mains), VR12 (Center), CR8 (Surrounds), CR8 (Rear Surrounds), Mirage Omni S10
Second 7.1 Setup: Yamaha RX-V663/Kenwood KR-5030 (Stereo), Boston Acoustics VR20 (Mains), VR10 (Center), CR6 (Surrounds), CRC (Rear Surrounds), Klipsch Sub12HG
2.1 Setup: Nakamichi RE-2, Boston Acoustics VR40 and Mirage Omni S10 (shared with 7.1), Emotiva XDA-1, and Pioneer, Kenwood, dbx, Luxman, Burwen, and JVC vintage equipment
Second 7.1 Setup: Yamaha RX-V663/Kenwood KR-5030 (Stereo), Boston Acoustics VR20 (Mains), VR10 (Center), CR6 (Surrounds), CRC (Rear Surrounds), Klipsch Sub12HG
2.1 Setup: Nakamichi RE-2, Boston Acoustics VR40 and Mirage Omni S10 (shared with 7.1), Emotiva XDA-1, and Pioneer, Kenwood, dbx, Luxman, Burwen, and JVC vintage equipment
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These are my personal opinions, so take them as you will.
Speaking honestly, I think 9.1.4 is a bit much unless your room is quite large. I don't know if the two extra speakers will really add much benefit, since they are being matrixed in on everything at the moment. Running 13 speakers well will definitely cost some serious money, too.
As far as timbre-matching, matching surrounds is really not all that important, IMO. There's not enough coming out of them that non-timbre matched speakers will jump out at you like the front 3 (L-C-R) will. I prefer to keep within the same brand and close to the same quality level, but others don't even feel that is necessary. For me, my Boston Acoustics CRs work superbly for surrounds with my VRs up front. I have all of them listed in my signature (as well as a pair of CR85s and CR75s for a future Atmos setup). With all of those, I have yet to notice a difference in the tweeters when watching/listening to a movie in surround sound (they share the same woofers as the VRs). The CRs are also very readily available at the moment.
Of course, if you listen to multi-channel music a lot timbre-matching is important. However, I seriously doubt that the rear surrounds or ceiling speakers in a mix would be all that important, especially for concerts. Maybe when they start doing 7.1 or higher mixes of studio albums they'll be important. I don't think too many mix in more than 5.1 at this point for music, let alone Atmos. The only 'Atmos' mix for a concert/music Blu-Ray I've seen is on Roger Waters' The Wall and that's listed as 5.1 (I'm curious as to how that classifies as Atmos unless they are just using the object-oriented part and not the channels part).
As far as buying them, all I can say is just watch EBay. There's a decent selection available now if you want some VR-M bookshelves or VR-900 series, which are both timbre-matched. Since you're using a subwoofer, the bookshelves should integrate quite well into your system with a crossover of around 80 Hz.
The VRS speakers are the surrounds for the early VR series. The VRS and VRS Micro only go down to 125 hertz, which makes them hard to integrate into most systems (I actually cancelled an order of a pair of VRS speakers from EBay when I found that out). The VRS Pros are the better ones, going down to 80 Hz, but that still may be hard to integrate. Personally, I have mixed feelings about using plastic speakers and dipoles in general. If you end up buying a pair, they could be used for ceiling speakers, however it is better to have 2 pairs of them and not just 1. Atlantic makes a good manual on how to mount them if you search for 'How to use dipoles in an Atmos setup' on Google.
In addition to those, the VRi series may be an option. Those generally run a little expensive IMO and are pretty hard to find, but are the matching in-ceilings for the VR series.
The Bravo, Micro, and E series all have the VR tweeter in them, so those could work as well. The Micros and the Bravos may or may not be hard to integrate into the system depending on where you want your subwoofer set.
Again, those are my personal opinions, so take them as you will.
Speaking honestly, I think 9.1.4 is a bit much unless your room is quite large. I don't know if the two extra speakers will really add much benefit, since they are being matrixed in on everything at the moment. Running 13 speakers well will definitely cost some serious money, too.
As far as timbre-matching, matching surrounds is really not all that important, IMO. There's not enough coming out of them that non-timbre matched speakers will jump out at you like the front 3 (L-C-R) will. I prefer to keep within the same brand and close to the same quality level, but others don't even feel that is necessary. For me, my Boston Acoustics CRs work superbly for surrounds with my VRs up front. I have all of them listed in my signature (as well as a pair of CR85s and CR75s for a future Atmos setup). With all of those, I have yet to notice a difference in the tweeters when watching/listening to a movie in surround sound (they share the same woofers as the VRs). The CRs are also very readily available at the moment.
Of course, if you listen to multi-channel music a lot timbre-matching is important. However, I seriously doubt that the rear surrounds or ceiling speakers in a mix would be all that important, especially for concerts. Maybe when they start doing 7.1 or higher mixes of studio albums they'll be important. I don't think too many mix in more than 5.1 at this point for music, let alone Atmos. The only 'Atmos' mix for a concert/music Blu-Ray I've seen is on Roger Waters' The Wall and that's listed as 5.1 (I'm curious as to how that classifies as Atmos unless they are just using the object-oriented part and not the channels part).
As far as buying them, all I can say is just watch EBay. There's a decent selection available now if you want some VR-M bookshelves or VR-900 series, which are both timbre-matched. Since you're using a subwoofer, the bookshelves should integrate quite well into your system with a crossover of around 80 Hz.
The VRS speakers are the surrounds for the early VR series. The VRS and VRS Micro only go down to 125 hertz, which makes them hard to integrate into most systems (I actually cancelled an order of a pair of VRS speakers from EBay when I found that out). The VRS Pros are the better ones, going down to 80 Hz, but that still may be hard to integrate. Personally, I have mixed feelings about using plastic speakers and dipoles in general. If you end up buying a pair, they could be used for ceiling speakers, however it is better to have 2 pairs of them and not just 1. Atlantic makes a good manual on how to mount them if you search for 'How to use dipoles in an Atmos setup' on Google.
In addition to those, the VRi series may be an option. Those generally run a little expensive IMO and are pretty hard to find, but are the matching in-ceilings for the VR series.
The Bravo, Micro, and E series all have the VR tweeter in them, so those could work as well. The Micros and the Bravos may or may not be hard to integrate into the system depending on where you want your subwoofer set.
Again, those are my personal opinions, so take them as you will.
Thanks for all the great info. Yes I agree that 9.1.4 is probably a bit much for my room. That would only be something I'd look if I found a great deal on another set of towers. I plan on getting a relatively high end atmos receiver when the time comes, so that should be able to supply a fair amount of power.
I kind of figured that about the VRS speakers. They looked a bit like they were of lower quality than the main VR line. Almost like computer speakers since they were plastic.
I'll have to look into the CR, VRi, and Bravo series if I'm unable to find anything in the VR series. Maybe I'll get lucky again and something will pop up on my local craigslist.
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Have a pair of Boston M340 looking at powering them with emotiva xpa 2 but noticed the M340 is rated at 4ohms and recommended amplifier power is 50-350 watts. Xpa 2 is 500 watts at 4ohms. Is this to much power for the M340?
I have the owners manual for the M340's. They are 8 Ohm speakers not 4 Ohm. Espo77's living room equipment: RECEIVER: Yamaha RX-A3030- SPEAKERS: Boston Acoustics M350, M25 center, surrounds, and front heights-
BLU-RAY: Oppo BDP103D- SUBWOOFER: HSU VTF-15H MK2- dedicated circuits for A/V- TV: Vizio P55C-1
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Hi all what are the dimensions and weight of the VR 14 centre speaker? Especially the height and depth? Thanks!
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Hi all what are the dimensions and weight of the VR 14 centre speaker? Especially the height and depth? Thanks!
I believe the VR 12 and VR 14 are the same size. I could be wrong, but having seen enough pictures of both and having a VR 12, they look the same size to me. Here are the VR 12 measurements, which at the very least should be very close:Height 8 3/4'
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Width 25'
Depth 9'
Weight 30 lbs
Those are excellent (and monster) centers and you should consider yourself lucky to find one in working order, especially the VR 14 which is quite rare.
7.1 Setup: Yamaha RX-V671, Boston Acoustics VR40 (Mains), VR12 (Center), CR8 (Surrounds), CR8 (Rear Surrounds), Mirage Omni S10
Second 7.1 Setup: Yamaha RX-V663/Kenwood KR-5030 (Stereo), Boston Acoustics VR20 (Mains), VR10 (Center), CR6 (Surrounds), CRC (Rear Surrounds), Klipsch Sub12HG
2.1 Setup: Nakamichi RE-2, Boston Acoustics VR40 and Mirage Omni S10 (shared with 7.1), Emotiva XDA-1, and Pioneer, Kenwood, dbx, Luxman, Burwen, and JVC vintage equipment
Second 7.1 Setup: Yamaha RX-V663/Kenwood KR-5030 (Stereo), Boston Acoustics VR20 (Mains), VR10 (Center), CR6 (Surrounds), CRC (Rear Surrounds), Klipsch Sub12HG
2.1 Setup: Nakamichi RE-2, Boston Acoustics VR40 and Mirage Omni S10 (shared with 7.1), Emotiva XDA-1, and Pioneer, Kenwood, dbx, Luxman, Burwen, and JVC vintage equipment
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Morning folks! First time poster here, thought this would be the best place to get some info on a set of BA's I just got from a friend.
I used to be quite tech savvy with all this around 10 years ago but for the life of me I cannot remember a thing about setting these things up correctly so I'm very much a rookie again
The Speakers are:
2 x VR-35
1 x VR-14
2 x VRS-Pro's
1 x VR-2000 Sub
The original manuals are long lost unfortunately and I've searched high and low on the internet for them with no luck.
Can anyone tell me what the frequency range of these speakers are and what on earth I should be doing as far as crossover points for them go?
If it helps the Amp I'm using is a Denon AVR-2807 (old I know but it all sounds great to me!)
Any advice would be very much appreciated, feeling very much like a fish out of water and don't want to do them an injustice! Many thanks, Tom.
I used to be quite tech savvy with all this around 10 years ago but for the life of me I cannot remember a thing about setting these things up correctly so I'm very much a rookie again
The Speakers are:
2 x VR-35
1 x VR-14
2 x VRS-Pro's
1 x VR-2000 Sub
The original manuals are long lost unfortunately and I've searched high and low on the internet for them with no luck.
Can anyone tell me what the frequency range of these speakers are and what on earth I should be doing as far as crossover points for them go?
If it helps the Amp I'm using is a Denon AVR-2807 (old I know but it all sounds great to me!)
Any advice would be very much appreciated, feeling very much like a fish out of water and don't want to do them an injustice! Many thanks, Tom.
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Morning folks! First time poster here, thought this would be the best place to get some info on a set of BA's I just got from a friend.
I used to be quite tech savvy with all this around 10 years ago but for the life of me I cannot remember a thing about setting these things up correctly so I'm very much a rookie again
The Speakers are:
2 x VR-35
1 x VR-14
2 x VRS-Pro's
1 x VR-2000 Sub
The original manuals are long lost unfortunately and I've searched high and low on the internet for them with no luck.
Can anyone tell me what the frequency range of these speakers are and what on earth I should be doing as far as crossover points for them go?
If it helps the Amp I'm using is a Denon AVR-2807 (old I know but it all sounds great to me!)
Any advice would be very much appreciated, feeling very much like a fish out of water and don't want to do them an injustice! Many thanks, Tom.
I used to be quite tech savvy with all this around 10 years ago but for the life of me I cannot remember a thing about setting these things up correctly so I'm very much a rookie again
The Speakers are:
2 x VR-35
1 x VR-14
2 x VRS-Pro's
1 x VR-2000 Sub
The original manuals are long lost unfortunately and I've searched high and low on the internet for them with no luck.
Can anyone tell me what the frequency range of these speakers are and what on earth I should be doing as far as crossover points for them go?
If it helps the Amp I'm using is a Denon AVR-2807 (old I know but it all sounds great to me!)
Any advice would be very much appreciated, feeling very much like a fish out of water and don't want to do them an injustice! Many thanks, Tom.
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